'They’re like, 'You’re really familiar.' They realize once you’ve told them that you do porn that they've indulged in it. Then it becomes a different sort of dynamic with people.'
SEAN FORD: I’ve done some fashion-facing stuff, some photo shoots for magazines. My boyfriend coincidentally is a photographer. He shot me for some publications. I appreciate the art.
MCGOUGH: These pictures with your partner, is this different than with somebody you’re performing for? MCGOUGH: It still has a lot of shame base to it, even though most men watch porn—straight and gay and bi. But it does have kind of a dirty, hidden feeling. When I was your age, maybe two years older, I made this painting in 1985 that said “queer.” Big Victorian letters and flowers all around it. I thought, I’m for that, because “queer” meant odd. I had been called that since I was a kid, being shouted from passing cars and whatever.
FORD: Violence has become so much more normalized than eroticism. I think it’s for actually quite an intentional, sinister reason. It’s because violence tends to push people apart for the benefit of the powerful. Love, radical love, tends to bring people together and can affect real change. I think the promotion and normalization of violence over love and eroticism has been an intentional move by the powerful to sort of drive us away from each other.
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