Stephen Colbert grills ex-Trump Defense Secretary Mark Esper: “What does that say to you about the state of our country that it’s just this one man in this position pushing back against the crazy and that you can’t be truthful to the American people?”
The interview began cordially enough, with the two men joking around about how their sit-down was postponed when Colbert had a resurgent case of COVID-19 and had to cancel another week of shows.And when Colbert asked the West Point graduate for his assessment of his former boss Donald Trump’s military knowledge, Esper replied, “I thought you were going to ask hard questions,” before generously describing him as knowing no more than his generals—but more than the average person on the street.
It wasn’t until their second segment that Colbert pressed Esper on his decision to wait until he had a book to sell to start speaking out against his former boss. “Given you knew all of this, why did you wait to put it in a book?” he asked. “Doesn’t that seem like you’re trying to sell books instead of protect the country?”
As Esper attempted to answer, Colbert followed up with, “But you did know all this stuff and felt you couldn’t tell us?” All Esper could really say in response was that “it’s a great question” that he “wrestled with” and ultimately decided to save his most damning stories about Trump for a book that was released a year and a halfLater in the show, Colbert asked his second guest, Judd Apatow, what comedian George Carlin would have thought about Esper.new documentary about the comedian
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