Diplomats describe shock, disbelief over Trump's Ukraine plan in new impeachment testimony

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Two new transcripts released by House impeachment investigators contain fresh details about how people around Trump jostled for control over U.S. policy in Ukraine.

US diplomat David Holmes says he'd never seen anything in his career like the July 26 phone call he witnessed between President Donald Trump and Gordon Sondland, the U.S. Ambassador to the European Union.

President Donald Trump speaks as Secretary of State Mike Pompeo looks on during a Cabinet meeting in the Cabinet Room of the White House on August 16, 2018 in Washington, DC.A senior American diplomat stationed in Ukraine's capital has told the House Intelligence Committee he'd never seen anything in his career like a July 26 phone call he witnessed between President Donald Trump and Gordon Sondland, the U.S.

In an opening statement that was released over the weekend, Holmes had described listening to Trump loudly ask Sondland over the phone if Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy was "going to do the investigation." Sondland confirmed that he was. Trump appeared to be considering how much to intervene in the case, Holmes said. Sondland advised the president to, "wait until after the sentencing or it would only make it worse." Instead, Trump should, "let [Rocky] get sentenced, play the racism card, and give him a ticker-tape when he comes home," Holmes quoted Sondland as having told the president.

Sondland's July 26 phone call with Trump is expected to be a major topic of discussion during his hearing on Wednesday. Pompeo's efforts included two previously unreported calls that the secretary made to Trump's personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, in late March. Hale also said he believed Pompeo had spoken to Fox News Channel host Sean Hannity about the attacks, which Hannity had featured on his nightly program.Hale also said that when he was first told that Giuliani was fueling the attacks, he couldn't believe it.

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