Ethel Cain and Kiernan Shipka on Nihilism and Nightmares

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'All I can say is it’s going to get scarier from here on out.” In conversation with kiernanshipka, Ethel Cain hinted at what’s coming next in her career. ⛓️:

CAIN: It’s easy to jump deep into that; it’s harder to crawl your way back out. It took me a minute to realize, “You don’t have to be Ethel all the time.” I cut my hair on a manic whim while I was visiting friends in Florida because I was like, “I need to be Hayden.” And now that that record’s done, we’re moving on to other characters. I can’t play everybody convincingly, so I’ve pulled back and now. I keep saying it’s my Beatrix Potter moment.

SHIPKA: I love it. There’s such an expansiveness to the world you’ve created. It’s like there are endless possibilities. I know you’ve talked about books and movies and albums about this world.

SHIPKA: Are you going to stay in the sort of Southern Gothic biblical world for the larger vision? You do such an incredible job of feeling so steeped in that world, and I wonder how you see that changing over the next couple pieces of work that you put out. CAIN: The only thing I fear is not fully executing a project the way that I want it. We’ve reached a point in art where the more corporate side of things has taken over, and it dictates how much creativity an artist has based on how much it’s going to sell. I don’t come from a lot of money and I don’t really plan on going towards a lot of money unless it’s for the art itself, so how well a project’s going to do doesn’t register in my brain.

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