A long talk with KenTremendous about TheGoodPlace's finale, how Brooklyn99 is shifting its approach to telling stories about police, and much more
Photo: Colleen Hayes/NBC When The Good Place creator Mike Schur called recently to discuss his dearly departed series, which is currently nominated for six Emmy Awards, I expected to have a 20- or 30-minute conversation about the series’s final episode and how it ushered each of its main characters into a more permanent version of the hereafter.
The four main Good Place characters didn’t get to decide how they died on Earth, but they all get some measure of choice in the finale, as far as when they pass through the door. Was giving them a choice at the end something that you and the writers talked about? Playing the perfect Madden game was a silly way to say Jason has completed his journey. But really, he doesn’t complete his journey until he gets to the door, realizes that he forgot the necklace he was going to give Janet, and decides to wait. The guy who at a moment’s notice would huck a Molotov cocktail at anyone, anywhere, was like, “I’ll just wait for her.
It came pretty organically out of the idea that one of the themes of the show is you don’t figure this stuff out by yourself. We owe our growth and our understanding of the world to our relationships with other people. There’s a line in Aristotle that Chidi quotes in season one: Aristotle compares getting better to playing the flute. The more you play it, the better you get.
I don’t 100 percent know what they’re planning to do. I know they’re being incredibly thoughtful about it. It’s a tricky thing. They want to address it more than anything, and they’re going to. But also the show has a very specific tone and it’s very silly and fun, and you can’t just turn on a dime and make the show into something it isn’t. The show is not designed to be a vehicle for the intense and drama-filled discussion of social justice.
The awful thing about bad choices is that they often continue to ripple out and affect other people in ways you can’t even anticipate. It’s obvious that if you tweet an offensive joke about East Asian people, East Asian people are going to be sad and hurt.
The same thing is happening with regards to marginalized communities, ranging from ethnic minorities to women to LGBTQ people to every kind of person that basically isn’t the white dude. People are having the same reaction, which is like, “Well, now I’m walking on eggshells.” You don’t have to walk on eggshells. You just have to treat people with a baseline of dignity and respect and compassion.
That’s a good point. With the mask thing, also swirled into it is the problem of a now 40-year assault on science and reason as a guiding principle for how we ought to live our lives. This is the result of that.
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