'I always felt that this is the way I wanted the show to end.' ThisIsUsFinalChapter
— the present-day scenes, anyway — and the show is at its home base on the Paramount Studios lot in Los Angeles. Just outside Stage 30, which houses the interior of the swanky home Kevin Pearson built adjacent to the family cabin, the show’s creator and emotional architect Dan Fogelman greets me with a bit of multilayered gallows humor: “Get ready to see everybody die!”, is still fresh.
Shortly before Tuesday’s series finale aired, Fogelman and I talked again about “This Is Us,” executing the vision he had for the finale and the moment he finally let himself get emotional about the ending. The following has been edited for length and clarity.Since these final two episodes worked in tandem, I want to start with the train.
It had been. I thought this type of twist in storytelling would happen again in that second-to-last episode, our last little magic trick. And hoped it would speak thematically to what we’ve always tried to say on the show, which is that the good and bad coexist and dance with one another. When I’ve lost somebody in a hospital setting, I’ve constantly been struck by the amount of things happening in that same building at the same time.
What planning went into these flashback moments? As you’ve talked about before, they were shot, what, four years ago? Three years ago? The closest we ever came to that was, I believe, in the fifth episode of the show, where I think Kevin is talking about his painting. I think he says: “This right here, I think it’s us.”
How did you decide what the other small but big moments would be, like Déjà getting pregnant and deciding to name her future son William? As William would have said, I need a little bit of time and perspective for me to step back and figure that all out. It was never like I set out to say, “I’m going to do this to honor my mother.” At times, I would say, “Here I want to really capture what it was like being in my mom’s funeral.” We’ve explored so many issues — diseases and body image and anxiety and alcoholism and all these different things.
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