'The military has no role' in politics, says retiring chair of the Joint Chiefs

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The nation's most senior military officer has retired. He talks to All Things Considered about Donald Trump, democracy, and whether the U.S. military has been politicized.

about Donald Trump, democracy, and whether the U.S. military has been politicized.Army General Mark Milley, the nation's most senior military officer, has retired after 43 years of service.His four years in that role were defined by a seemingly non-stop series of challenges. There was the end of the 20-year-long U.S. campaign in Afghanistan, rising tensions with China, and Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Perhaps the most contentious moment was when Milley appeared alongside then-President Donald Trump, wearing his combat fatigues, in a political photo-op on Lafayette Square during the racial justice protests in 2020.Gen. Mark Milley appears with then President Trump as he departs the White House en route to St. John's Church in June 2020.Gen. Mark Milley appears with then President Trump as he departs the White House en route to St. John's Church in June 2020.

So our loyalty and our, you know — we are duty bound, we are oath bound — to protect and defend the Constitution. And part of that, by the way, is to follow the lawful legal orders of whomever is the elected representative, whether you like the orders or not. If they're legal and lawful, it's our obligation to follow them. And that's an important thing, we the military are obligated by law to follow lawful orders. [Crosstalk] Up until the point, though......

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