A 15-year-old is standing trial at Leeds Crown Court
The 15-year-old is accused of murdering Alfie, who was stabbed during in Horsforth on November 7 last year. Alfie was caught on CCTV just before 3pm as he passed St Margaret's Primary School. He was on his way to meet his friends.
In her police interview, the woman said: "It was all just mayhem". She said: "We thought there were fighting...He used to walk past and would always say hello. We saw these two lads fighting and she shouted 'he's got a knife' and we looked at each other, looked at him and he ran off and I ran over and by the time I ran over he'd collapsed.
The woman described Alfie as "a pleasant young lad, a polite young gentleman". She said he "always says hello".She said she came to realise one of the boys was called Alfie and he was beginning to be pushed into the road. She said: "I wouldn't have said it was a deliberate push but that was the direction the fight was going in."
The woman said: "I saw the lad with his back to me, he raised his arm and that arm came diagonally across his body and I remember thinking at the time it was a very strange way to hit somebody."Get all the latest and breaking crime news in Leeds by signing up to our Crime and Punishment newsletter here.
The pathologist also said there was a stab wound to Alfie's leg measuring 3cm. He said: "If he only had that wound he wouldn't have died. That wound wasn't fatal, but the wound to his chest was fatal."
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